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Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2007.12.11 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 11/12/2007 20:52:57
Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 11/12/2007 20:52:43
Lets look at the abaddon. Its clearly one of our best ships. It has good damage and a mean tank.
Isnt it odd that abaddon works at tanking and ganking eventhough the cap reduction bonus is missing on this ship?
How can one not come to the conclusion that this bonus, typically seen on amarr ships, is not a faked bonus? Doesnt this show that we actually are being cheated of one real bonus?
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Posted - 2007.12.11 21:05:00 -
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 Originally by: shinsushi
Well, I think it has to do with the fact that a very long time ago, CCP claimed that Laser had a built in damage bonus. Because of this built in damage bonus, Lasers should be roughly equal to ACs and Blasters with their racial bonuses applied (RoF or Dmg).
Now in order to pay for this built-in damage bonus, lasers are supposed to be capacitor hogging beast, making them not-viable to fit on other ships (along with fitting), and amarr ships get a reduction to capacitor need.
To put it another way, you could switch around the bonuses by subtracting 25% dmg and 50% cap use from lasers, and then change the bonus on amarrian boats to +5% dmg per lvl. Same end result, deferent method of getting there.
This brings up the question, do lasers have a built in damage bonus? I think it is pretty clear that they do not. IF you change around the bonuses like I mentioned to do, you will see that lasers are sub-par to racial counterparts in nearly every-signle-way while requiring the most cap and most fitting.
The problem is ccp has dug a deep ****hole and are sinking deeper and deeper. Instead of fixing the core problem, ie fixing lasers, they are overpowering the new ships (like abaddon) so they can perform on par with other races. What this does is, when the day comes when they have to face the fact that the old ships need fixing theyll have to nerf the new ships or theyll be overpowered if they only fix lasers. Its stupid. They should have fixed lasers a long time ago. Now their work is getting harder and harder.
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Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2007.12.11 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Enjackah
I love these threads... no really I do... honestly...
The Abaddon's capacitor capacity makes up for the lack of a laser cap use bonus, while the Armageddons really needs that bonus due to it's high rate of fire and smaller cap size.
Abaddon base cap: 6375
Armageddon base cap: 5313
Uhm youre forgetting that abaddon has 8 turrets and geddon 7 and alot of other things. You cant just compare cap size lol.
You know a geddon runs out of cap after 6mins of firing megapulses, abaddon after 3mins. You know how long a megathron can fire neutron blaster IIs? 27min. Yeah lasers are borked, cap ship bonus is a lie and add omni tank crap to it and you know our weapon system sucks badly. You know it, I know it, vegetable-lasagne knows it. mkay?
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Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2007.12.12 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Surreptitious
You get my vote for best forum poster. This and the ECM/TD ones are great. Keep pointing out CCP's ineptitude, love it.
Syrup
Good to hear. Everyone else hates me. 
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Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Paulo Damarr
@ Lyria Skydancer
How many different whine threads are you going to start? 3 different topics on the first 2 pages so far. why dont you save some time and just post a thread saying "EVE sucks and everything needs nerfing" instead of doing it one perceived issue at a time.
Amarr whine post detected, activate counter-flame-whiner:
-Derail thread by talking about other threads. Check.
-Personal attacks to derail thread. Check
-Post with alt so ingame main char doesnt get bad rep for crap you write on eve-o. Check
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Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan
Quote:
Caldari: the logical step in the gun-boat line Merlin-Moa-Ferox-Rokh
Actually, it's the first step in the gunboat line that doesn't suck.
Lyria: Amarr have problems, but don't you think you'd do better by making a well thought out comprehensive thread? Spamming the forums with whine threads (5th one I've read today, I think?) isn't going to get you far.
Both me and shin have made several posts with numbers, statistics and resoning. Everything is pretty much shot down, flamed and after 10 posts drowned in personal attacks. You know we are only human too and there is a limit to our patience aswell.
So we now make shorter posts to reach out to the mentally challenged that cant read longer then 10 rows of text.
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